Thiollier's Hidden Needle

Thiollier's Hidden Needle

Attack	70 Physical, 45 Magic
Critical	100
Scaling	Str E, Dex C, Int D
Requires	Str 10, Dex 22, Int 15
Effect	Inflicts Eternal Sleep buildup (42)
Guard	28% physical, 18 guard boost
Type	Fist
Attack Type	Pierce
Skill	Sleep Evermore
FP Cost	16
Weight	0.5
Upgrades With	Somber Smithing Stones, to +10
Sell Price	500

Thiollier's Hidden Needle is a Fist in Elden Ring. It belongs to Shadow of the Erdtree and waits in Enir-Ilim.

Thiollier's Hidden Needle is the concealed weapon of Thiollier, a design favored by poison-wielders, which secretes a rich poison that sends its victims into an eternal sleep. It is taken from Thiollier's body at Enir-Ilim after defeating the final boss there, but only if his questline is completed first. It is a very light paired fist that adds magic damage and builds eternal sleep. Its unique skill, Sleep Evermore, pierces deeply with a poisoned needle, and its follow-up deals significant damage to a foe already asleep. In the off-hand its skill takes priority, much like Parry, so it suits a Dexterity and Intelligence character who sets up sleep.

Stats

Thiollier's Hidden Needle adds 42 Eternal Sleep buildup to any build at only 0.5 weight, with C Dexterity and D Intelligence scaling. Sleep Evermore takes priority when held in the off-hand, the way Parry does, so it works as a sleep tool alongside any main weapon without giving up the main hand.

How to Get Thiollier's Hidden Needle Guide

It lies with Thiollier's belongings near the arena entrance once Promised Consort Radahn is defeated, provided his questline was finished before the fight against Needle Knight Leda in Enir-Ilim.

Talk to Thiollier at the Pillar Path Cross Site of Grace in the Gravesite Plain.
Once Miquella's charm has been broken, find St. Trina at the end of the Stone Coffin Fissure, where Thiollier joins her.
Drink St. Trina's nectar until she speaks, talk to Thiollier, then rest at the Garden of Deep Purple Site of Grace.
Defeat Thiollier when he invades, then talk to him again beside St. Trina.
Do all of this before fighting Needle Knight Leda and her allies in Enir-Ilim.
Defeat Promised Consort Radahn and collect the needle near the arena entrance.

Where to find Thiollier's Hidden Needle Location?

Thiollier's Hidden Needle map location:

Map credit by Map Genie.

Upgrades

It upgrades with Somber Smithing Stones up to +10.

Level	Material	Amount	Attack	Scaling
+1	Somber Smithing Stone [1]	x1	80 Physical, 51 Magic	Str E, Dex C, Int D
+2	Somber Smithing Stone [2]	x1	90 Physical, 58 Magic	Str E, Dex C, Int D
+3	Somber Smithing Stone [3]	x1	100 Physical, 64 Magic	Str E, Dex C, Int D
+4	Somber Smithing Stone [4]	x1	110 Physical, 71 Magic	Str E, Dex C, Int D
+5	Somber Smithing Stone [5]	x1	120 Physical, 77 Magic	Str E, Dex B, Int D
+6	Somber Smithing Stone [6]	x1	130 Physical, 84 Magic	Str E, Dex B, Int D
+7	Somber Smithing Stone [7]	x1	141 Physical, 90 Magic	Str E, Dex B, Int C
+8	Somber Smithing Stone [8]	x1	151 Physical, 97 Magic	Str E, Dex B, Int C
+9	Somber Smithing Stone [9]	x1	161 Physical, 103 Magic	Str D, Dex B, Int C
+10	Somber Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone	x1	171 Physical, 110 Magic	Str D, Dex B, Int C

Skill

Sleep Evermore costs 16 FP. The wielder readies the needle, then lunges forward in a deep thrust that builds up eternal sleep. If the thrust lands on a foe already asleep or in eternal sleep, it bursts inside them for heavy extra damage, so the skill pairs with any sleep source. The thrust can be parried. The skill is unique to this weapon and cannot be swapped out.

"Pierces the enemy deeply with a poison-coated needle that delivers eternal sleep. If the follow-up strike lands upon a foe who is already in a state of slumber or eternal sleep, it will deal significant damage."

Suggested Build

Carry it in the off-hand, put enemies to sleep with Sleep Evermore, and land the follow-up strike on the sleeping target.

Stats	Dexterity 60, Intelligence 33, Vigor 50, Mind 20, Endurance 20 (Strength 10)
Affinity	Cannot be infused; it keeps its own scaling.
Talismans	Magic Scorpion Charm, Shard of Alexander

Notes

"Concealed weapon used by Thiollier, of a design generally favored by poison-wielders for dark and subtle purposes. Like St. Trina, who blossomed in the deep-purple garden, a rich poison is secreted from within which sends its victims into an eternal sleep."

All Fists

The table below lists all Fists in Elden Ring.

Name	Physical	Magic	Fire	Light	Holy	Crit. Boost	Weight	Str.	Dex.	Int.	Fai.	Arc.	Sell Price	Skill
Caestus	90 35	0 20	0 20	0 20	0 20	100 20	1.5	D 8	D 8	0	0	0	100	Endure
Cipher Pata	0 9	0 14	0 14	0 14	85 61	100 19	0	0	0	0	C 30	0	500	Unblockable Blade
Clinging Bone	80 31	24 36	0 17	0 17	0 17	100 21	3	E 8	C 22	0	0	D 16	200	Lifesteal Fist
Golem Fist	110 58	0 24	0 24	0 24	0 24	100 36	6	C 24	E 8	E 11	E 11	0	500	Endure
Grafted Dragon	89 27	0 18	57 44	0 18	0 18	100 22	2.5	D 20	D 14	0	D 16	0	100	Bear Witness!
Iron Ball	101 38	0 22	0 22	0 22	0 22	100 22	2.5	D 11	E 8	0	0	0	100	Endure
Katar	97 36	0 21	0 21	0 21	0 21	110 21	2.5	D 8	D 10	0	0	0	100	Impaling Thrust
Madding Hand	53 20	0 15	63 42	0 15	0 15	100 19	1	D 8	E 8	E 13	E 20	0	200	Madding Spear-Hand Strike
Pata	104 45	0 26	0 26	0 26	0 26	110 26	4	D 11	D 15	0	0	0	100	Impaling Thrust
Poisoned Hand	76 33	0 19	0 19	0 19	0 19	100 19	1	E 8	8	0	0	C 28	200	Poison Spear-Hand Strike
Spiked Caestus	91 35	0 20	0 20	0 20	0 20	100 20	2	D 8	D 10	0	0	0	100	Endure
Star Fist	105 41	0 23	0 23	0 23	0 23	100 23	3	D 12	E 8	0	0	0	100	Endure
Thiollier's Hidden Needle	70 28	45 27	0 16	0 16	0 16	100 18	0.5	E 10	C 22	D 15	0	0	500	Sleep Evermore
Unarmed	20	0	0	0	0	100	0	0	0	0	0	0	-	Kick
Veteran's Prosthesis	83 30	0 20	0 20	53 48	0 20	100 24	4	D 15	D 12	0	0	0	500	Storm Kick